Dáil Éireann - Volume 322 - 25 June, 1980

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Jury Verdicts.

6. Mr. Keating asked the Minister for Justice if he proposes to introduce legislation in relation to the acceptance [1909] of majority verdicts in criminal cases where agreement is reached by ten jurors.

Mr. G. Collins: I have explained to the House on more than one occasion that I could not undertake to indicate, by way of reply to parliamentary questions, what specific legislative proposals I might have in a particular area. This question however differs from others concerning possible legislative changes in that it relates to a specific undertaking given in the pre-election manifesto. Accordingly, without departing from the principle that I cannot undertake to announce specific legislative proposals until they are ready for publication, I am prepared to confirm that the Deputy need have no reason to fear that this undertaking will not be honoured during the lifetime of this Parliament.

Mr. Keating: I do not know if the Minister knows any more than I do about the lifetime of the Dáil. I do not for a moment wish to associate this party with any support for the proposal when it comes before us. Why has it taken three years to get out of the Minister a bland assurance that we will have the necessary legislation to implement point 4 of the manifesto on this issue under the heading “Justice”?

Mr. G. Collins: If the Deputy does not appreciate that the policy outlined on behalf of my party in the pre-election manifesto was a programme of work to fulfil in five years, then somebody on his own side should try and explain to him that his party came into Government——

Mr. Harte: Will the Minister stand on his own two feet?

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: The Minister should be allowed to reply.

(Interruptions.)

Mr. Quinn: Has the Minister the heads of a Bill in relation to proposed [1910] legislation and have they been approved by the Government?

Mr. G. Collins: As of now I have not heads of a Bill but I would like to assure the Deputy and the House that quite a lot of work has been undertaken already in this area. I am sure the Deputy probably appreciates that when one has the heads of a Bill one has 90 per cent of the work done.

Mr. Quinn: In view of the fact the Minister is proud of the work done to date, when does he think he might have the heads of the Bill?

Mr. G. Collins: I suggest that if the Deputy tables that question for me the first day of next term I will be in a better position to answer it for him. I cannot give him the answer now.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Question No. 7.

Mr. Keating: Would the Minister be as precise as possible in indicating to us at what stage the proposed legislation is at at the moment?

Mr. G. Collins: I cannot give the Deputy that information. If the Deputy knows anything at all about the work that goes into the drafting of a Bill——

Mr. Keating: Will the Minister tell us?

Mr. G. Collins: I will tell the Deputy. If the Deputy will ask some of his colleagues who were in Government they will be able to tell him.

Mr. Keating: I asked the Minister at what stage the legislation is?

Mr. G. Collins: It is not my job to educate Deputy Keating on what is required in relation to the drafting of a Bill.

Mr. Keating: I am learning very fast from the Minister.

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: I have already called Question No. 7.

[1911] Mr. Harte: Does the Minister also have to talk down?

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Deputy Harte should remain silent.

(Interruptions.)

Mr. Quinn: We would be satisfied if the Minister looked after his Department.