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Dáil Éireann - Volume 250 - 16 December, 1970 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Secondary Teachers' Increments. Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald 112. Dr. FitzGerald asked the Minister for Education why persons entering secondary teaching from employment in the public service. State enterprises or non-aided primary teaching do not receive incremental credit for such service when similar persons entering vocational teaching receive such credit. Mr. O'Kennedy Mr. O'Kennedy 1270 Mr. O'Kennedy: The arrangement whereby incremental credit may in certain circumstances be given to persons entering the vocational teaching service in respect of previous suitable experience arose out of recommendations made under the scheme of conciliation and arbitration. No claim for similar arrangements has been [1270] received on behalf of persons entering the secondary teaching service. The arrangements mentioned above do not include incremental credit for non-aided primary teaching service. Dr. O'Donovan Dr. O'Donovan Dr. O'Donovan: Can the Parliamentary Secretary say why secondary teachers are not given credit for service in the North of Ireland or in Britain, which is an even more important matter? It is a disgrace to the Department that an experienced teacher coming back to this country gets no credit for such service. An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Denis Francis Jones An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: That is a separate question. Dr. O'Donovan Dr. O'Donovan Dr. O'Donovan: I agree, but the oftener it is mentioned here the better. Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald: The Minister said the other day that he was going to do something about that. Am I to understand that the Parliamentary Secretary is saying that regardless of whether it is just that something should be done—— Mr. O'Kennedy Mr. O'Kennedy Mr. O'Kennedy: The Deputy is not so to understand the Parliamentary Secretary. Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald: I understand him to say that it is given to vocational teachers. He did not give any reason why it should be confined to them. He just said secondary teachers had not looked for it. He knows about the conciliation and arbitration scheme for secondary teachers and is he saying that until they use that scheme they will not get something to which they are entitled? Is this a form of blackmail? Mr. O'Kennedy Mr. O'Kennedy Mr. O'Kennedy: No, it is not a form of blackmail and the Deputy is going too far in suggesting that. He will appreciate that teachers are represented by teachers' organisations and the Department do not necessarily undertake to make proposals on their behalf. If and when such a proposal is made it will be given consideration. Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald: May I submit that a lot of our troubles are because the Government and the Government agencies do not in their industrial relations adopt the—— An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Denis Francis Jones 1271 [1271] An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: The Deputy is making a statement. Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald: No, I am asking a question. They do not adopt the normal process of trying to do the right thing even before they are asked. In this case it is obviously only just that this should be done. As secondary teachers who may not be members of the ASTI are suffering an injustice, will he take action on it? Mr. O'Kennedy Mr. O'Kennedy Mr. O'Kennedy: The Deputy will appreciate that experience prior to going into teaching, related to vocational teaching as it is now called, is quite different and can in many ways be more directly related to the actual subject being taught at that level, than in the secondary school, now so called. Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald: Does the Parliamentary Secretary mean that this experience is confined to cases of vocational subjects? Mr. O'Kennedy Mr. O'Kennedy Mr. O'Kennedy: Not necessarily. It is generally in vocational schools related to experience of a similar type. Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald Dr. FitzGerald: A French teacher in a vocational school can get incremental benefit from service in Guinness's but a secondary teacher cannot. Dáil Éireann 250 Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. Secondary Teachers' Increments. Questions 19701216
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